‘They Hate Us!’ The Muslim Persecution of Christians, November 2023
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‘They Hate Us!’ The Muslim Persecution of Christians, November 2023

Gatestone Institute The following are among the abuses and murders inflicted on Christians by Muslims throughout the month of November …
V.R.S.
"This is why I support our Elder brothers of the Old Testament in Israel with the fight against Hamas.'
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No Talmudic Jew recognizes the Old Testament as they reject the New one. Moreover, they follow first of all the impious, blasphemous Talmud not the Hebrew Bible (mostly - because there are many sects there e.g. pseudo-messianic antichrist Chabad Hanukkah guys of the Trump family follow satanic …More
"This is why I support our Elder brothers of the Old Testament in Israel with the fight against Hamas.'
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No Talmudic Jew recognizes the Old Testament as they reject the New one. Moreover, they follow first of all the impious, blasphemous Talmud not the Hebrew Bible (mostly - because there are many sects there e.g. pseudo-messianic antichrist Chabad Hanukkah guys of the Trump family follow satanic writings of S. Zalman - Tanya).
philosopher
@V.R.S. The Tamud is only a Rabbinic commentary on the Bible. It is not considered a Sacred text but opinions of Rabbis through the centuries on interpretation and application of Judaism. Jews follow and the Torah, and are free to agree or disagree with the opinions in the Talmud. I agree, though, that Judaism is fragmented with many different groups with contradictory beliefs. In the letters of St …More
@V.R.S. The Tamud is only a Rabbinic commentary on the Bible. It is not considered a Sacred text but opinions of Rabbis through the centuries on interpretation and application of Judaism. Jews follow and the Torah, and are free to agree or disagree with the opinions in the Talmud. I agree, though, that Judaism is fragmented with many different groups with contradictory beliefs. In the letters of St. Bernard Clairvaux a Doctor of the Church to the king of Southern Germany, he writes in response to the People's (Peasant) Crusade that killed hundreds of Jews in Germany on their way to the Holy Land. St. Bernard condemns the murders, and says that the Jews being people of the Old Testament are not to be killed, harassed, or driven out but protected in Christian lands. Moreover, he says we pray for their conversion and well being as we see according to scripture they are part of God's Providencial design in the Book of Revelation (The Apocalypse) and will convert in mass upon Christ's return. Until that time we should look after them.
V.R.S.
@philosopher
"The Tamud is only a Rabbinic commentary on the Bible."
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That is how Talmudists explain it to the naive goyim.
philosopher
@V.R.S. Well, as a Catholic I will follow the wisdom of St. Bernard of Clairvaux!
V.R.S.
@philosopher
Even today wikipedia is not stupid enough to be deceived by lies of Talmudic rabbis:
"The Talmud (Help:IPA/English - Wikipedia; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד, romanized: Talmūḏ, lit. 'teaching') is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha) and Jewish theology. Until the advent of modernity, in nearly all Jewish communities, the Talmud …More
@philosopher
Even today wikipedia is not stupid enough to be deceived by lies of Talmudic rabbis:
"The Talmud (Help:IPA/English - Wikipedia; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד, romanized: Talmūḏ, lit. 'teaching') is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha) and Jewish theology. Until the advent of modernity, in nearly all Jewish communities, the Talmud was the centerpiece of Jewish cultural life and was foundational to "all Jewish thought and aspirations", serving also as "the guide for the daily life" of Jews."

"Well, as a Catholic I will follow the wisdom of St. Bernard of Clairvaux!"
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OK, please follow:
"They are living signs to use, representing the Lord's passion. For this reason they are dispersed into all regions, that now they may pay the just penalty of so great a crime, and that they may be witnesses of our redemption. Wherefore the Church, speaking in the same Psalm, says, "Scatter them by thy power; and bring them down, O Lord, our shield." So has it been. They have been dispersed, cast down. ... Finally, when the multitude of the Gentiles shall have entered in, then, "all Israel shall be saved," saith the apostle. Meanwhile he who dies remains in death."
(Letter to Eastern France and Bavaria Promoting the Second Crusade, 1146)

BTW, St. Bernard did not know Talmud as it was hidden carefully from the goyim and emerged only because of one Jew-convert in 1st half of the 13th century. Then popes and bishops decided that the only adequate reaction is to burn the blasphemous books.
philosopher
@V.R.S. The Catholic Catechism is a rule and guide for the life of Catholics, but do all Catholics agree and follow latest version with its changes on the Death Penalty? Some Catholics don't follow it and when sitting on a jury for a heinous crime, will vote for Capital punishment. Likewise, some Jews will ignore the Rabbinic opinions on Christ in the Talmud.
""They are living signs to use, …More
@V.R.S. The Catholic Catechism is a rule and guide for the life of Catholics, but do all Catholics agree and follow latest version with its changes on the Death Penalty? Some Catholics don't follow it and when sitting on a jury for a heinous crime, will vote for Capital punishment. Likewise, some Jews will ignore the Rabbinic opinions on Christ in the Talmud.

""They are living signs to use, representing the Lord's passion. For this reason they are dispersed into all regions, that now they may pay the just penalty of so great a crime, and that they may be witnesses of our redemption. Wherefore the Church, speaking in the same Psalm, says, "Scatter them by thy power; and bring them down, O Lord, our shield." So has it been. They have been dispersed, cast down. ... Finally, when the multitude of the Gentiles shall have entered in, then, "all Israel shall be saved," saith the apostle. Meanwhile he who dies remains in death.""

In above quote, St. Bernard is not advocating to do this to the Jews, but saying that the Jews had suffered this b/c of their sins. He says similar things about the failures of the Crusades and Crusaders, that they suffered defeat b/c of their sins, and one of the sins for the German Crusade and People's Crusade was the Rhineland Massacres of Jews.


See Catholic Church Response at

Rhineland massacres - Wikipedia

Lastly, even though some popes ordered the Talmud to be burned, they didn't change their response to the Jewish people. They did not order the Jews to be hated or mistreated, persecuted or driven out but were to be protected and maintained, which was consistent with previous popes and Church Fathers on the treatment of Jews in Christendom.
V.R.S.
@philosopher
Some Jews ignore, some Germans did not kill the Jews during WWII.
However, Talmud has been the religious rule of the Jews just like the Jews (i.e. their legitimate authorities) killed Christ and the Germans organised death camps for poor victims.
"The Catholic Catechism is a rule and guide for the life of Catholics, but do all Catholics agree and follow latest version with its changes …More
@philosopher
Some Jews ignore, some Germans did not kill the Jews during WWII.
However, Talmud has been the religious rule of the Jews just like the Jews (i.e. their legitimate authorities) killed Christ and the Germans organised death camps for poor victims.

"The Catholic Catechism is a rule and guide for the life of Catholics, but do all Catholics agree and follow latest version with its changes on the Death Penalty? Some Catholics don't follow it and when sitting on a jury for a heinous crime, will vote for Capital punishment."
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The Catholic Catechism does not work like Talmud by addition of new rabbinical traditions i.e. the Catholic traditional doctrine cannot be changed. The rule: lex posterior derogat priori also does not apply.
In particular, the traditional doctrine cannot be changed on the basis of lavender musings in JPII Catechism or in Bergoglio's scandalous activities. The Catholic teaching on the death penalty is well established and we do not have to refer to Summa of Aquinas.
Cf. e.g. the really Catholic Catechism of the Council of Trent:
"Far from being guilty of breaking this commandment [Thou shall not kill], such an execution of justice is precisely an act of obedience to it. For the purpose of the law is to protect and foster human life. This purpose is fulfilled when the legitimate authority of the State is exercised by taking the guilty lives of those who have taken innocent lives”
(Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent, Part III, 5, n. 4.).

confirming the teaching of previous popes e.g. Innocent III:
"Concerning secular power we declare that without mortal sin it is possible to exercise a judgment of blood as long as one proceeds to bring punishment not in hatred but in judgment, not incautiously but advisedly."
(Denzinger 425 - old numbering)

"They did not order the Jews to be hated or mistreated, killed or driven out but were consistent with previous popes and Church Fathers on the treatment of Jews in Christendom."
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Yes, of course but they issued many orders to protect Christendom and Christians from the Jews and judaising. Cf. IV Lateran Council for example.
And history shows us what the Jews can do to the Christians if they have enough power - cf. the invasion of the Holy Land in 1st half of 7th century for example.
foward
Search for "The Jewish Question in Europe", Civiltà Cattolica, 1890
philosopher
@foward On the Civilta Cattolica
La Civiltà Cattolica - Wikipedia
"During the late 1800s the paper also published several anti-Semitic articles. According to Jewish writer Pinchas Lapide, the paper, for example, re-awoke the myth that Jews ritualistically killed Christian children to use the victim's blood in their bread: "In spite of six papal condemnations of the blood legend and in spite of Pope …More
@foward On the Civilta Cattolica
La Civiltà Cattolica - Wikipedia

"During the late 1800s the paper also published several anti-Semitic articles. According to Jewish writer Pinchas Lapide, the paper, for example, re-awoke the myth that Jews ritualistically killed Christian children to use the victim's blood in their bread: "In spite of six papal condemnations of the blood legend and in spite of Pope Innocent III's explicit command ('Nor shall anyone accuse them of using human blood in their religious rites... [W]e strictly forbid the recurrence of such a thing') the order... published, between February 1881 and December 1882, a series of articles [which contained such assertions as]: 'Every year the Hebrews crucify a child... [and] in order that the blood be effective, the child must die in torment' (21 Jan. 1882, p. 214)."[20"

"In 1938 Fr. Enrico Rosa published an article[27] in which he analyzed some of the criticisms made to the periodical by a study on the Jewish question. Fr. Rosa negated the accusations according to which the periodical favoured two measures against Jews in 1890: the confiscation of property and the expulsion from Italy; Fr. Rosa affirmed that neither of the two are admissible by the Christian spirit, and that the periodical did not sustain them, though he did admit that the force of the controversy in that historical moment did not help to express the positions in a very clear way. In this same article Fr. Rosa warned against the rising fascist antisemitism."
V.R.S.
@philosopher
"According to Jewish writer Pinchas Lapide..."
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Kindly keep your rabbinic authority to yourself.
"...re-awoke the myth that Jews ritualistically killed Christian children "
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Have you read "Bloody Passover" by Ariel Toaff - the son of the Roman rabbi "fraternally" visited by John Paul II in 1986?
Blood Passover - The Jews Of Europe And Ritual Murder - Ariel Toaff : Free Download,…More
@philosopher
"According to Jewish writer Pinchas Lapide..."
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Kindly keep your rabbinic authority to yourself.

"...re-awoke the myth that Jews ritualistically killed Christian children "
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Have you read "Bloody Passover" by Ariel Toaff - the son of the Roman rabbi "fraternally" visited by John Paul II in 1986?
Blood Passover - The Jews Of Europe And Ritual Murder - Ariel Toaff : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

It is a well documented book about strange rituals of Talmudic Ashkenazi Jews.
philosopher
@V.R.S. Blood Passover, like The Protocols of Zion, are antisemitic tropes written by rabid Hebrew haters hell bent on discrediting the Jews. They are myths and constructs of disordered minds.
There is no Jewish Question, because there is no Jewish Problem. As "Israeli-Maronite priest Yousef Yakoub, from Haifa, tells Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon to mind their own business. “We Christians are …More
@V.R.S. Blood Passover, like The Protocols of Zion, are antisemitic tropes written by rabid Hebrew haters hell bent on discrediting the Jews. They are myths and constructs of disordered minds.

There is no Jewish Question, because there is no Jewish Problem. As "Israeli-Maronite priest Yousef Yakoub, from Haifa, tells Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon to mind their own business. “We Christians are loyal citizens of the State of Israel. It’s not your concern who we meet or don’t meet”. This is a response to Hezbollah for calling Christian citizens of Israel ‘traitors to the Arab nation’, following the meeting between Church leaders and Israeli president Isaac Herzog." Jews hold the majority of political power in Israel and Christians who are Israeli citizens live there in peace compared to Islamic nations.

You disagree, and seem to think there is a problem. What is your solution? What should be done to solve your problem?
V.R.S.
@philosopher
"Blood Passover, like The Protocols of Zion, are antisemitic tropes written by rabid Hebrew haters"
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OK, I see - thank you Mr. IDF for your "scientific" opinion.
"There is no Jewish Question, because there is no Jewish Problem"
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Of course, there is Jewish Problem - arisen from the rejection by the Jews of the Messiah. This problem is seen in the Gospels, in the Acts of Apostles …More
@philosopher
"Blood Passover, like The Protocols of Zion, are antisemitic tropes written by rabid Hebrew haters"
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OK, I see - thank you Mr. IDF for your "scientific" opinion.

"There is no Jewish Question, because there is no Jewish Problem"
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Of course, there is Jewish Problem - arisen from the rejection by the Jews of the Messiah. This problem is seen in the Gospels, in the Acts of Apostles and the Apostolic Letters but you poor judaizing soul that departed from the Catholic truth - you do not see it. I will pray to God to open your eyes.
The Jews lost - according to the Christ prophecy - their Temple, their Sacrifice and their Priesthood but still preferred to forge anti-Christian Babylon religion of Talmud rather than accept Christ and His revelation.
The so-called "State of Israel" (so-called as we are the chosen people as St. Peter the Pope says and St. Paul the Apostle seconds that there is no Jew and Greek now) is an anti-christian project in the Holy Land which St. Pius X rightfully condemned speaking with Theodore Herzl and even John XIII and Paul VI did not dare to recognize (finally the "Jewish pope" John Paul II under the US pressure did it in the 1990's).

"What is your solution?"
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It is not mine (solution). It is the Catholic Church solution for centuries: pray for the Jews, try to convert them, hope for their en masse conversion before the end of time but in the meantime - defend the Church and Christendom against their hostile attempts.
We as Christians have to love our enemies but it does not mean we will have no enemies - on the contrary we will have. The enmity predicted in the Book of Genesis, in the Proto-Gospel does not mean hatred (as today vile prophets of "antisemitism" want to have it).
philosopher
@V.R.S. Prayer, evangelization, and the virtue of Hope, and defend the Catholic Faith against all and any attackers. It is the solution to every problem. I was beginning to worry about you, but this is something we both can agree on. Pax et bonum!
foward
The communist revolution in Russia was almost entirely run by Jews.
- there were 384 commissars (government ministers) who ran Russia at the time of the revolution. There were 2 blacks, 13 Russians, 15 Chinese, 22 Armenians, and more than 300 Jews.
- 264 of those Jewish commissars had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the imperial dynasty.
- Cpt. Montgomery Schuler stated …More
The communist revolution in Russia was almost entirely run by Jews.

- there were 384 commissars (government ministers) who ran Russia at the time of the revolution. There were 2 blacks, 13 Russians, 15 Chinese, 22 Armenians, and more than 300 Jews.

- 264 of those Jewish commissars had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the imperial dynasty.

- Cpt. Montgomery Schuler stated in his report to Washington on the Russian revolution "it is probably unwise to say this to loudly in the United States, but the bolshevik movement is and has been since the beginning; guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type"
philosopher
"Pakistan: Man murders Christian was driven by strong hatred against Christians and Jews." This is why I support our Elder brothers of the Old Testament in Israel with the fight against Hamas. Jihadist seek to the destruction of both Catholics and Jews.
foward
Christian zionism is a heresy
philosopher
@foward First, please, define Christian Zionism. And, second, what Catholic Church document names excathedra Christian Zionism as you define it and declares it a heresy? Sources? The 2006 Jerusalem Declaration on Christian Zionism as it defines it is not an official Catholic Church document signed by the Pope. It is an ecumenical group consisting of not only some Eastern rite Catholics but also …More
@foward First, please, define Christian Zionism. And, second, what Catholic Church document names excathedra Christian Zionism as you define it and declares it a heresy? Sources? The 2006 Jerusalem Declaration on Christian Zionism as it defines it is not an official Catholic Church document signed by the Pope. It is an ecumenical group consisting of not only some Eastern rite Catholics but also Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and other protestant churches that are heretical themselves. The JDOCZ hold no weight over the universal Church or Catholics.
foward
The Jews follow Talmud, that hates Christians. Not Jews are animals for them.
foward
Not surprise that sons of 2VC and Nostra Aetate share similar documents. But not before.
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foward
Not good for us, but yes for you: Top Israeli security source reveals to Hebrew site Times of Israel that Tel Aviv is in secret talks with African Republic of Congo and other nations to facilitate transfer of displaced Gazans to their countries.